I still was tyring to get an orange tone so i decide to mix a red (beets) and a yellow (onion skins). I also wanted to see what the beets would do so i dived my beet bath as well. I blended the beets with hot water, and then poured boiling water over the paste. I poured boiling water over the onion skins as well. Then I let my pre mordant swatches sit over night in each bath. I got very close to an orange that time.